Oregon Mortgage News: Bouncing Credit Scores

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Bouncing Credit Scores

An Active Rain associate, Philip Turner, recently posted a member's only blog on not making any changes during the loan process. This is in relation to purchasing anything new with credit. I agree wholeheartedly and would like to illustrate this with a client that I'm currently working with.

Bill (not his real name) was referred to me by an agent that I'm working with. He was in the process of purchasing a new property and selling one of his rentals. His credit score was around 650. He had no derogatory marks on his credit but did have high balances on both of his credit cards. Our intention was to pay his debt down once he sold his rental.

I ran a scenario through a "what if" simulator that my credit reporting company has and found that if we left around $100 on both cards his scores would raise by at least 50 points. This would put him in a great loan at 95% CLTV.

Several weeks later I reran his credit as we were faced with a decision and I wanted to make sure taht we were ok. His scores had decreased to about 642. Ouch! Other than my credit pull, the only other action was an additional $1000 placed on his credit cards.

Fast forward to last Friday. He has sold his rental, paid his cards down to around $300 each and we have successfully updated his credit report with all three bureaus. He now has a 713, 705 and 698. We will be able to place him into a great loan. 

I bring this up to show how much a credit score can flucuate in a very short time period.

Larry Morris is a Certified Mortgage Planning Specialist and Certified Mortgage Coach with Golf Savings Bank in Beaverton, Oregon. He specializes in USDA Guaranteed Rural Home Loans, FHA Purchase and Refinance, FHA 203k Rehab loans, FannieMae HomePath loans and conforming purchase and refinances in the states of Oregon, Washington, Idaho and California.

He can be reached at 503-421-0096, or larry@PDX-Mortgage.com.

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6 commentsLarry Morris, Oregon Mortgages • March 26 2007 07:39AM

Comments

Larry - Interesting that the changes can happen so quickly - a process to keep in mind for "marginal" borrowers.
Posted by Tony Marriott, Associate Broker, CDPE, CRP, CLHMS, CRB, CRS ~ Phoenix AZ (Keller Williams Realty Professional Partners) over 2 years ago
Even good credit borrowers. There are loan programs that give better rates or higher CLTV for 730+ credit scores. A loan could fall apart if the mortgage broker used one of them and then the lender re-pulled credit and the scores dropped to 729... I've seen 800 scores drop to 740 due to needing to use credit cards to move across country. Luckily it didn't matter in that case.
Posted by Larry Morris, Oregon Mortgages (Golf Savings Bank) over 2 years ago
This is very interesting.  I think it is important for the loan originators to clearly explain this to the borrower.  I think many do not.  Thanks for the illustration -- I had no idea things could fluctuate so greatly.
Posted by Joan Whitebook, ABR,e-Pro,CEBA Southern New Hampshire (Buyer's Option Realty Services) over 2 years ago
Joan, I agree, but it's equally important for Realtors to mention this as well. Often you have a better relationship and hear more about their plans and dreams. Plus, your paycheck is tied to it as well. While the buyer might only see an increased interest rate, it could be unaffordable, or require a larger downpayment. Either of these ccould make the deal fall apart.
Posted by Larry Morris, Oregon Mortgages (Golf Savings Bank) over 2 years ago
I was told the the ideal scenario with credit cards was to carry a 30% balance on the cards.  Does that sound about right?
Posted by Richard Parr,Realtor,Real Estate Agent, Elmhurst and DuPage County Real Estate (Prospect Equities, Oakbrook Terrace, IL) over 2 years ago
It goes in tiers. Ideal would be to keep it around 10%. Realistically, keeping it below 30-50% and you'll be ok. If you know that you'll be purchasing something big pay your cards down. 30 days prior.
Posted by Larry Morris, Oregon Mortgages (Golf Savings Bank) over 2 years ago

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